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Hey, Mike. You've been surfing the Net for quite a while.
嘿，麦克。上网已经好一会儿了。
What on earth are you searching for?
你究竟在找什么？
It's something relative hackers.
关于黑客的东西。
I often hear people talking about them, but I don't know much about them.
我经常听大家谈论黑客。但是我对他们了解不多。
Well, roughly speaking, a hacker is a computer buff.
额，简单来说，黑客就是电脑的老板。
You mean a guy using enthusiastic and knowledgeable about the computer?
你是说一个满腔热情，对电脑很在行的人？
You can say that.
额，你可以那样说。
But why are people always having such a negative attitude towards them?
为什么你用如此消极的态度看待他们。
They must have mixed hackers with crackers.
他们一定把黑客和骇客搞混了。
What is crackers then?
那么什么是骇客？
There is another group of people who loudly call themselves hackers, but they aren't.
有另外一群人，他们高喊自己是黑客，但是他们不是。
They break into computers and break the phone system.
他们入侵电脑，破坏电话系统。
Real hackers call these people "crackers", and want nothing to do with them.
真正的黑客叫这些人骇客，而且不想与他们扯上边。
So they are two totally different concepts.
所以他们是完全不同的两个概念？
Well, the real hackers mostly think crackers are lazy, irresponsible and not very bright, and feel that being able to break security does make you a hacker any more than being able to start cars without keys makes you an automotive engineer.
额，真正的黑客通常都觉得骇客懒惰，不负责任，不是很光明正大，而且觉得破坏安全不能使你成为一名黑客，而不只是没有用钥匙就能启动汽车能使你成为一名汽车工程师。
Unfortunately, many journalists and writers have been fooled into using the word "hacker" to describe crackers.
很不幸，很多新闻工作者和作家都搞混了，他们用黑客这个词来形容骇客。
This irritates real hackers to no end.
这一直让真正的黑客很恼怒。
I see. Then the basic different is: hackers build things, crackers break them.
我明白了。那么最基本的不同在于，黑客建立东西，骇客破坏东西。
You got it.
你说对了。
Thanks a lot.
非常感谢。
You are welcome.
不客气。
第二遍，请跟读：Hey, Mike. You've been surfing the Net for quite a while.
嘿，麦克。上网已经好一会儿了。
What on earth are you searching for?
你究竟在找什么？
It's something relative hackers.
关于黑客的东西。
I often hear people talking about them, but I don't know much about them.
我经常听大家谈论黑客。但是我对他们了解不多。
Well, roughly speaking, a hacker is a computer buff.
额，简单来说，黑客就是电脑的老板。
You mean a guy using enthusiastic and knowledgeable about the computer?
你是说一个满腔热情，对电脑很在行的人？
You can say that.
额，你可以那样说。
But why are people always having such a negative attitude towards them?
为什么你用如此消极的态度看待他们。
They must have mixed hackers with crackers.
他们一定把黑客和骇客搞混了。
What is crackers then?
那么什么是骇客？
There is another group of people who loudly call themselves hackers, but they aren't.
有另外一群人，他们高喊自己是黑客，但是他们不是。
They break into computers and break the phone system.
他们入侵电脑，破坏电话系统。
Real hackers call these people "crackers", and want nothing to do with them.
真正的黑客叫这些人骇客，而且不想与他们扯上边。
So they are two totally different concepts.
所以他们是完全不同的两个概念？
Well, the real hackers mostly think crackers are lazy, irresponsible and not very bright, and feel that being able to break security does make you a hacker any more than being able to start cars without keys makes you an automotive engineer.
额，真正的黑客通常都觉得骇客懒惰，不负责任，不是很光明正大，而且觉得破坏安全不能使你成为一名黑客，而不只是没有用钥匙就能启动汽车能使你成为一名汽车工程师。
Unfortunately, many journalists and writers have been fooled into using the word "hacker" to describe crackers.
很不幸，很多新闻工作者和作家都搞混了，他们用黑客这个词来形容骇客。
This irritates real hackers to no end.
这一直让真正的黑客很恼怒。
I see. Then the basic different is: hackers build things, crackers break them.
我明白了。那么最基本的不同在于，黑客建立东西，骇客破坏东西。
You got it.
你说对了。
Thanks a lot.
非常感谢。
You are welcome.
不客气。
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