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网友讨论：为什么越南依然贫穷？
评论翻译Edward KenwayFollow M.S. in Economics (college major) & Mathematics, Queen Mary, University of London (Graduated 2014)upxed 2yI’m chinese and I want to share my opinion with you.i went to vietnam for 2 times. I discover a very interesting thingvietnam GDP per capita is about 3000USD now, in this level we got mongolia, India, Indonesia and PhilippineBut if you have been to vietnam, you will realize that vietnam is the best among themAt least in vietnam, i’ve never seen any extreme poor people in vietnam who are totally homeless. Lots of extreme poor people you can find in India and Phlipine, but in vietnam most people just live in a way “not rich but still acceptable”and also, the education and the medical level, vietnam always does the best among themThe problem of vietnamese economy now is mainly about industrial systemvietnam was an agricultural country, and doesn’t have a comlete industrial system. Japan built its industrial system before WW2, Korea because of US support, and China by USSR support. All of eastern asian countries got complete industrial system, which can help us develop our own technology and find our own way to walkWhile Vietnam doesn’t have this condition我是中国人，我想和你分享一下我的观点。我去过越南两次，发现了一个非常有趣的现象越南现在的人均gdp大约为3000美元，和印尼，印度，蒙古，菲律宾处于同一个水平但如果你去过越南，你会发现越南是这几个国家里面最好的一个至少在越南，我没有见过极端贫困，无家可归的人。而印度和菲律宾有很多极端贫困的人，但在越南，大部分人的生活虽然不富裕，但依然可以接受而且越南的教育和医疗一直都是这些国家里面最好的越南现在的经济问题主要和工业体系有关越南是一个农业国，没有完整的工业体系。日本在二战之前就建立了自己的工业体系，韩国之所以可以建立工业体系是因为获得了美国的援助，而中国是获得了苏联的援助。东亚所有国家都有完整的工业体系。这有助于我们发展自己的技术，找到属于我们自己的道路。而越南没有这样的条件You can see after the political conflict between Japan and China in 2013, many japanese companies left china to build their factories in vietnam. Western countries and korea also invested a lot in vietnam, and vietnam has become one of the world factory because of low labour costs. You can find lots of goods in the market, once made in china or made in S korea, now made in vietnam.And now 7 years passed, the earning per capita of vietnam is still low, only $3000Because all the profits were taken by foreign companies, cuz they own the core technology. Vietnam still hasn’t learnt anything from them and has no their own brand.By manufacturing Ford and Benz, now japan got honda and nissan. By working for simens, korea got sumsang and LG. by letting Apple set facotries in Canton, now china got Huawei, Xiaomi.2013年中日爆发政治冲突后，很多日本企业离开中国，前往越南建立工厂。西方国家和韩国也对越南大力投资，由于廉价劳动力，越南已经成为世界工厂之一。你会发现超市里面很多过去是中国制造和韩国制造的产品现在都变成越南制造了。现在七年时间过去了，越南的人均收入依然很低，只有3000美元，因为所有的利润都被外国企业拿走了，因为他们拥有核心的技术。越南没有从这些外国企业身上学到任何东西，他们没有自己的品牌。通过为福特和奔驰制造汽车，日本诞生出了本田和日产。通过为西门子企业服务，韩国诞生出了三星和LG。通过允许苹果在广州建厂，中国诞生出了华为和小米Vietnam does not have his own industrial system, that’s why you could regard vietnam as the sacrifice of the globalization which is under western rule nowBut I’m sure if Vietnam can establish their own complete industrial system and find his own role in world economy, Vietnam could become an economy far much bigger than Taiwan and South Korea, almost similar to japan.almost 100 million hardworking and clever people (4times more than Taiwan and 2 times more than South Korea), good international political environment (no hostile enemies as North Korea to South Korea, China is a threat but also a partner, good relations with western world), enough resources from South China Sea.越南没有自己的工业体系，所以你可以将越南视为是西方统治下的全球化的牺牲品。但我相信如果越南可以建立完整的工业体系，并在世界经济中找到属于自己的角色的话，那么越南的经济体量或许会远超韩国和台湾地区，或许可以几乎达到日本那种水平。越南拥有近一亿人口，他们勤劳而聪明（越南人口是台湾地区的四倍，是韩国的两倍），而且越南还有良好的国际政治环境（越南不像韩国，没有朝鲜那样的死敌，中国虽然是一个威胁，但同时也是越南的伙伴，越南和西方关系良好），而且南海还有足够多的资源。Vietnam is definelty the most potential country in this worldPS: some comments wrote that Vietnam got problem of heavy corruption. It’s just common in almost all the developing countries. To 1980–1990 for South Korea and China 10 years ago, human right and corruption were also a big problem. Think about Philippine, Thai and Indian styled “democracy”. Do you feel Vietnam is far much better now?越南绝对是世界上最有潜力的国家。评论区有人说越南存在严重的腐败问题，但在几乎所有的发展中国家中腐败是非常常见的一种现象。1980到1990年代的韩国和十年前的中国都存在严重的人权和腐败问题。对比菲律宾，泰国和印度式的民主，你会发现越南真的要比他们好多了。Diem Phuc Tran· 2ythanks for your answer. by the way GDP per capita VN is not 1900$ now, but around 3700$谢谢你的回答，顺便说一下，现在越南的人均gdp不是1900美元，而是3700美元左右Tensei Edo· 2yYour answer is so on point. If only the Vietnamese could realize the importance of domestically-made products.你说的很有道理。要是越南人可以意识到国产产品的重要性就好了。Mateus Mahumane· 2yVietnam was savagely bombed to ruin just decades ago. But Vietnam is rebuilding faster than many thought could do.就在几十年前，越南还处于猛烈的轰炸中。但越南重建的速度比很多人想象的都要快。Joseph Boyle· 2yInefficient Soviet style heavy industry was no great help for developing export and technology industries.低效的苏联式重工业对发展出口和技术产业没有太大帮助.Misheel Tubshinbaatar· 2yI am sure with lots of Chinese foreign companies moving to Vietnam we can see same miracle as in Vietnam just like china experienced 1,2 decade ago.我相信随着众多外国企业离开中国前往越南，我们或许也能在越南身上看到一二十年中国经历的经济奇迹。Wonderer· 2yBut GDP percapita for Indonesia is 4100 in 2019但2019年印尼的人均gdp为4100美元
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